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The AHT Guide to Hamburger and Cheeseburger Styles
Forgot to add - other than the minor oversight, outstanding post.
The AHT Guide to Hamburger and Cheeseburger Styles
@Adam: "Almost none of us at AHT have ever had a good steakhouse burger experience (except for AHT LA reviewer Damon Gambuto, Chicago reviewer Daniel Zemans and AHT editor Robyn Lee."
Fixed. See here for more info.
Burger Nirvana at David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago
@jjchampion: Good to know re: cheddar. I might have to give it a go on my next visit.
@ratbuddy: The photos are nowhere near Robyn quality, but a Yelper posted
this shot and here's a blurry pic on flickr. Both give a good idea of what they look like, but sadly neither emits the incredible smells of the real thing.
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Zeeks Pizza: Seattle's Decent Mini-Chain Inspires Deep Pizza Thoughts
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Zaharakos: A Wonderful Trip Back in Time with Burgers and Floats in Columbus, Indiana
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Flying Squirrel Pizza Company: Former Starbucks Employee Treats Seattle Right
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Burger Nirvana at David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM
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Zeeks Pizza: Seattle's Decent Mini-Chain Inspires Deep Pizza Thoughts
Looks like I should have tried Pagliacci's. I was planning on getting a slice or two at DeLaurenti, which is owned by the same people, but they didn't start selling slices early enough for me before I had to leave to go to the airport.
@lunge: I had eaten Mama Lil's amazing peppers earlier that evening at Flying Squirrel, and the peppers at Zeek's were not as crisp or nearly as mouth-watering as those ones. Maybe Zeek's sells Hungarian Goathorn peppers made by someone else?
The AHT Guide to Hamburger and Cheeseburger Styles
Forgot to add - other than the minor oversight, outstanding post.
The AHT Guide to Hamburger and Cheeseburger Styles
@Adam: "Almost none of us at AHT have ever had a good steakhouse burger experience (except for AHT LA reviewer Damon Gambuto, Chicago reviewer Daniel Zemans and AHT editor Robyn Lee."
Fixed. See here for more info.
Burger Nirvana at David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago
@jjchampion: Good to know re: cheddar. I might have to give it a go on my next visit.
@ratbuddy: The photos are nowhere near Robyn quality, but a Yelper posted
this shot and here's a blurry pic on flickr. Both give a good idea of what they look like, but sadly neither emits the incredible smells of the real thing.
Serious Pie: Seattle's Favorite Pizzeria Lives Up to Its Name
@WikiAdam: I guess I'm going to have to just appreciate your empathy, because I did not go to Delancey.
@karion: Just because I had the fig bar doesn't mean I didn't have the coconut cream pie. I did and it was incredible. The little bag of fresh donuts served with cinnamon and sugar as well as mascarpone and huckleberry jam was also excellent.
@islandexile: Wish I had known about Rose's before I went. I was on Orcas for a busy wedding weekend so I might not have been able to make it anyhow, but Rose's looks good.
@unarata: I suppose it depends who you ask, but I'd be surprised if I found a mini-chain like Pagliacci better than Serious Pie. That's not to say it's impossible - I'd choose Lou Malnati's over Serious Pie.
The pizzas at Serious Pie are, for the most part, pretty unique particularly in terms of toppings. As I mentioned in the review, most pizzas had neither sauce nor mozzarella cheese. I can easily see why people looking for more traditional pizza would be turned off by Serious Pie. I too would have liked to at least have had the option of a regular sausage pizza. But I thought the lack of choices in pizzas was more than made up for by the quality ingredients and excellent crust.
Standing Room Only: Mario's Lemonade
The watermelon is definitely my favorite. I think it's the many frozen chunks of watermelon, a treat on their own, that really makes it exceptional.
@Sky Full of Bacon: Thanks for the tip on Miko's. I'd never heard of it. Website says it's open every day in the summer, weather permitting. No mention of winter hours. Do they shut down all winter? If so, when?
Grilled: Daniel Zemans, Chicago Correspondent
@jjchampion: I did mock and it was all in good fun. In reality, I'm in hotdoglover's camp: I don't really care what other people do to their burgers. Or anything else they eat for that matter.
I think my burger reviews will be pretty clear, but I think this Grilled bit is great as it gives readers a chance to know where I'm coming from when I do my reviews. I've disavowed ketchup and brioche buns and declared my love for rare meat and strong cheeses. That's the flavor profile I want in a burger, so when I review a place and say what I like about it, it's great that readers know what I'm looking for so they can decide whether the burger I'm describing is one that they think they'll enjoy.
As for cutting out fast food, my reasons were much more tied to the chemicals that go into it and the treatment of employees by most chains that led me to give up on what had been at least a weekly dining choice. I'm not particularly vigilant when it comes to food politics (see: White Castle intake), but it was a place where I could do a little bit while ensuring a healthier lifestyle, which was important given how much other crap I eat.
@roboppy: You grossly exaggerate, but thanks for the kind words.
@hotdoglover: I do not and would not put ketchup on a hot dog. I love sweets, but I think the processed sweetener in ketchup severely clashes with beef. I actually think ketchup clashes with pretty much anything. The only time I eat ketchup is when I'm eating a quality of french fry that tastes more like oil than potato. In those cases, where the fry is pretty much a vessel for fat, I'll gladly soak the thing in ketchup as sugary fat is even better than regular fat.
@Everyone who equates not liking fast food to being a food snob, I'd love to hear some of you make the case as to the quality of places like McDonald's rather than simply insulting those of us who prefer things like fresh meat in our burgers.
Grilled: Daniel Zemans, Chicago Correspondent
Who knew my love of blue cheese would cause controversy? It is, admittedly, a very strong flavor. I've typically found that the places that offer it are ones that offer particularly large burgers of better quality meat - burgers that can stand up to the cheese.
@Nick Solares: Thanks! Hope I can live up to your expectations.
@Summerfield: I can definitely understand the fear, especially since the media jumps all over every story of tainted ground beef. I guess I just have confidence in most restaurateurs fear of litigation to think they're going to take proper precautions with their beef. Hopefully, I don't learn a painful lesson any time soon.
@jjchampion: As Pauper Nick pointed out, I have to think my White Castle love protects me from claims of snobbery. I also don't understand why liking a rare burger is indicative of being a burger snob.
@Sov: Where did you gt the idea I've decided to give up meat?
Great Lake Is Great Shakes: The Windy City Finally Has Great Pizza to Call Its Own
@forzapizza: Deep dish and stuffed pizza are recognized by hundreds of millions of people as pizza. If Ed or anyone else wants to call it casserole, it really doesn't bother me at all. I actually find it kind of amusing.
Great Lake Is Great Shakes: The Windy City Finally Has Great Pizza to Call Its Own
The pizza at Great Lake never ceases to amaze me and it was no different on this visit when I got to watch Ed Levine eat pizza in Chicago that, if Pizzeria Bianco and Mozza are his standards for ideal pizza, is better than anything available in entire Eastern time zone.
For those who've had problems with Lydia and Nick, I have a couple of thoughts beyond simply pointing out that I've found them to be very nice hosts. This is a small operation that turns out exceptional pizzas. If you eat there, the chances are that you are going to have to wait a while and if you prepare for that, I think it's a lot easier to handle. If not, then it's probably best you eat somewhere else.
As far as the calling in orders issue goes, the reality is that almost every night, there is far more demand than supply. That means that virtually every night there are going to be people who want pizza but can't get any. If Nick and Lydia have made the decision to give priority to customers who put forth a little more effort and actually come into the restaurant, then so be it. Great Lake is a neighborhood restaurant that happens to sell exceptional pizza. Implementing policies that favor those more invested in spending time in the community doesn't seem like a bad idea to me at all.
Bazbeaux Pizza: Indy's Best is Just Eauxkay
@allot: Thanks, I didn't know that. How far across upstate New York does the square cut go?
@ndfanwabashman: Rocco's sounds delicious, but it's going to take a lot more than a Notre Dame football game to get me to South Bend. Perhaps if they rent out the stadium to two footballl teams that aren't grossly overrated every year, I'll make it there again.
@Mad Ernie and Pizzablogger: I can't be sure because I didn't look inside the oven, but it looked like a standard pizza oven to me. Pizzablogger, did you happen to notice what kind of oven Bazbeaux used?
@Barry Foy: Interesting theory. As I said in the review, next time I'm in Indy, if I'm getting pizza, I'm trying Maria's. Any place that's been open for 50 plus years and sells a sauerkraut pizza has to be good.
@Nick: What do you remember the crust being like?
How to Make a Pizookie, or a Pizza-Cookie
Lou Malnati's has been around since 1971 and sells a chocolate chip pizza, which comes with ice cream and whipped cream. I'm not sure if it's been on the menu since the beginning, though. Whoever introduced the concept to the world deserves a James Beard Award Nobel Prize.
Albano's Pizzeria in Cicero: The Biggest and Best Pizza Puff in Chicago
@Adam: Sorry to disappoint you, but it's still worth trying a pizza puff or two next time you're in Chicago. As far as I know, you'll have travel far from downtown to get a good one. Either head west to Albano's or pretty far south (though Bridgeport is near south and likely has a couple of good ones I don't yet know about). I haven't had a pizza puff/fried calzone/panzerotti outside of Chicago, so I can't compare. Of course, since the key to a good pizza puff is lots of cheese and lots of grease, I'm going to go ahead and assume the Midwest is the place to get the best ones.
Kuma's Corner: A Chicago Burger Even Upton Sinclair Would Love
@Lvn4life: I understand your concern about pretzel rolls and ordinarily I'm not a huge fan. But at Kuma's, I think the extra heft provided by a pretzel roll is necessary to handle the burger and toppings.
@Chefhorn: The homemade chips are better than the waffle fries, but, and this could be simply because of the bliss the burger provides, the waffle fries are surprisingly good - crisp outside, soft middle. I'd be surprised if they're using a crappy brand of frozen fries
@happyscrappy: Agreed 100%. The patty itself is very good, but if there's a plain burger anywhere worth the kind of wait normally required at Kuma's.
@jjchampion: That's surprising you've gotten overcooked burgers consistenly and mine have always been done correctly. Maybe they've mastered cooking rare burgers but have trouble with other temperatures. How are you ordering your burgers?
Gyro Pizza at Italian Express: Love the Concept, Less Excited About the Reality
@alicemeichi: For all I know, the places that serve it here have been serving it for years, it's just that not many places sell it. Is it common in England? How is it typically prepared - with tomato sauce and mozzarella?
@cxg231: Are there differences in tehe actual meat? My doner kebab experience is relatively limited, but the meat always tasted like gyros to me.
@ryanriggs, skizziks and cebonney: Thanks for the tips. I'm convinced that gyros pizza can be delicious and I'm determined to find a place that does it right.
Restaurants in Minneapolis/ St Paul
hell's kitchen has outstanding food, but it's not cheap for what you get, especially since they moved into their new location. definitely worth going to however.
key's cafe, located in the gorgeous foshay tower, is definitely worth going to for breakfasts and their fantastic desserts. very casual and qualifies as cheap.
The most awesome deep dish in Chicago?
@joylissa: For most of the actual city, particularly the sections that tourists frequent, public transportation is great and easy to use. It's not as good as New York, but better than any other American city I know of. Lincolnwood is outside the city and either a long bus ride or a very pricey cab ride. If you're staying downtown, you can go to the Lou Malnati's in River North, which I haven't been to in a few years but never disappointed me, or the new one in the South Loop.
Fred's Chicago: I Love You, You Love Me, Get Great Pizza at Barneys
@forzapizza: Pizzablogger, who seems to have an impressive and possibly unsurpassed love of quality balsamic vinegar, is correct.
The most awesome deep dish in Chicago?
@joylissa: Lou Malnati's is the one place I recommend that visitors try. I would warn you to avoid the Lincoln Park/Lakeview location if you can. I've had three consecutive less than great experiences there. In the past month, I've been to the original location in Lincolnwood and the location in Wicker Park (take out and delivery only) and both produced the traditional exceptional pies.
Fred's Chicago: I Love You, You Love Me, Get Great Pizza at Barneys
@Pizzablogger: Yep, $16. But if the balsamic costs as much as you say, I guess that would explain why they put so little on.
@Mooner: Nope. Click on the link in the box at the top of the article for confirmation.
Ambiance Is Not a Topping
Bubblicious! Are you back to stay or is this just a tease?
That's That: Una Pizza Napoletana Is But a Memory as Mangieri Packs It in for SF
Oh Noes!!!
Now where will I be able to spend over $20 for an outstanding crust and a tablespoon of tomato sauce and 3 ounces of cheese next time I'm in New York?
I'm kidding of course. I think there might have been 2 tablespoons of sauce on my UPN pie.
Frank Bruni on the Great Artisanal Pizza Boom
@Pizzablogger: Interesting catch. I think you might be on to something. Also, check out his comment in this post, where he is particularly exuberant in his endorsement of Keste's "pizza wallet."
Wig & Pen Offers an Iowa City Twist to Stuffed Pizza
@s4xton: Agreed, and very proud of it.
@Rhetor: One person's too much cheese is another person's perfect amount.
LaRosa's: A Tradition Cincinnatians Should Not Be Proud Of
@christin: Thanks for the inside info! As I said in the review, I thought the cappocola was the best meat I had at LaRosa's. Very interesting that it comes from a different supplier than the rest. As for your comments on the pan crust, you might be right that they did not give me the correct crust - that would explain a lot.
@everyone who suggested other foods: this is a pizza blog so that's all I wrote about here. My quick thoughts on other food in Cincinnati: I am a big fan of the chili and think the differences between Skyline and Goldstar are overblown; I can't comment on Camp Washington because their failure to open on Sundays has stopped me from trying it both times it would have been possible. Montgomery Inn does not smoke their ribs and the sauce is really sweet and overpowers the meat. They're not bad, but they're not worth the hefty price tag nor worthy of their reputation. Graeter's remains one of the best ice creams I've ever had.
@CabbyRam: Thanks for sticking up for LaRosa's. I do wonder how they deal with the congealing cheese problem with their deliveries. Or do you think some people don't mind it?
Recent Posts
Zeeks Pizza: Seattle's Decent Mini-Chain Inspires Deep Pizza Thoughts
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Zaharakos: A Wonderful Trip Back in Time with Burgers and Floats in Columbus, Indiana
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Flying Squirrel Pizza Company: Former Starbucks Employee Treats Seattle Right
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Burger Nirvana at David Burke's Primehouse in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Serious Pie: Seattle's Favorite Pizzeria Lives Up to Its Name
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Frankie's Fifth Floor Pizzeria: Critical Error in Execution Dooms This Visit
Posted by Daniel Zemans, September 2, 2009 at 10:00 AM
An Overcooked Burger Is Saved by Good Seasoning at Erwin in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, August 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Bazbeaux Pizza: Indy's Best is Just Eauxkay
Posted by Daniel Zemans, August 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Pie Hole: Boystown's Siren Call to Pizza Eaters Across Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, August 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Albano's Pizzeria in Cicero: The Biggest and Best Pizza Puff in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, August 12, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Santullo's Eatery: Satiating Chicago Hipsters' NY Pizza Fix
Posted by Daniel Zemans, August 5, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Kuma's Corner: A Chicago Burger Even Upton Sinclair Would Love
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Gyro Pizza at Italian Express: Love the Concept, Less Excited About the Reality
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Fred's Chicago: I Love You, You Love Me, Get Great Pizza at Barneys
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 22, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Pizzeria Brandi: Not Your Italian Relative's Pizzeria
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Pizza Rustica: Roman Pizza in Wrigley Field's Shadow
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Wig & Pen Offers an Iowa City Twist to Stuffed Pizza
Posted by Daniel Zemans, July 2, 2009 at 1:45 PM
La Casa Pizzaria: Tangy Goodness in Omaha
Posted by Daniel Zemans, June 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Freddy's Pizza & Gelateria: A Cicero Tradition Worth Celebrating
Posted by Daniel Zemans, June 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM
LaRosa's: A Tradition Cincinnatians Should Not Be Proud Of
Posted by Daniel Zemans, June 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM
O'Fame: Fresh Ingredients Do Not Necessarily Make a Good Pizza
Posted by Daniel Zemans, June 3, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Forget Iowa, Heaven Is the All Candy Expo in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, June 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM
The Cochon 555 Traveling Show Makes Its Way to Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, May 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Gigio's Pizzeria: New York Slices in Chicago
Posted by Daniel Zemans, May 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM
A Visit to the 2009 National Restaurant Association Show
Posted by Daniel Zemans, May 27, 2009 at 8:30 AM
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About Daniel Zemans
Website: http://www.chicagopizzaclub.com
Location: Chicago
About: Chicago correspondent for Slice; born, raised and live in Chicago, but had stops in Minnesota, St. Louis, New York and DC in between. Send complaints to dzemans [at] gmail.com.
Favorite foods: Pizza, smoked meats, candy, Mexican
Last bite on earth:
Looks like I should have tried Pagliacci's. I was planning on getting a slice or two at DeLaurenti, which is owned by the same people, but they didn't start selling slices early enough for me before I had to leave to go to the airport.
@lunge: I had eaten Mama Lil's amazing peppers earlier that evening at Flying Squirrel, and the peppers at Zeek's were not as crisp or nearly as mouth-watering as those ones. Maybe Zeek's sells Hungarian Goathorn peppers made by someone else?